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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://totalcandor.com/blog/2009/02/could-you-get-by-on-half-a-million-a-year/comment-page-1/#comment-157426</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was fine until I got to the comments toward the end.  There are several issues being discussed here, but all in a mish-mash.  One issue is: How much can you live on?  This is addressed to the individual, and out of the context of one\&#039;s lifestyle.  Another issue is: What can/would you give up?  What is excessive to one may not be to another.  I think that Mike\&#039;s point here is that, if you are living paycheck to paycheck, no matter what your salary, that is a mistake.  Yet another issue is: How do we value certain skills?  One comment above suggests that making $500K per year requires only dedication and education.  It also involves doing something that people value that much.  Making money for other people happens to be one of those things.  Making movies too.  And there are some things that require more dediation and education than banking, yet pay much less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was fine until I got to the comments toward the end.  There are several issues being discussed here, but all in a mish-mash.  One issue is: How much can you live on?  This is addressed to the individual, and out of the context of one\&#8217;s lifestyle.  Another issue is: What can/would you give up?  What is excessive to one may not be to another.  I think that Mike\&#8217;s point here is that, if you are living paycheck to paycheck, no matter what your salary, that is a mistake.  Yet another issue is: How do we value certain skills?  One comment above suggests that making $500K per year requires only dedication and education.  It also involves doing something that people value that much.  Making money for other people happens to be one of those things.  Making movies too.  And there are some things that require more dediation and education than banking, yet pay much less.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://totalcandor.com/blog/2009/02/could-you-get-by-on-half-a-million-a-year/comment-page-1/#comment-146826</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last week, I was standing at a bus stop as a man next to me started speaking to me. Not too far from the bus stop, within view, was an outdoor trapeze school. People (most likely tourists) paid $20 for a brief lesson. The man complained how stupid those people are for spending $20 for a couple of swings, while he can get by with $20 for two weeks! (It was then that I realized the man is homeless.) He took out a small plastic box and showed me some things he&#039;s been stowing away in there; cigarettes (down to the filter), some seeds, gum, etc. This is what he lived on.

To the folks complaining about how stupid these execs are, saying moronic things like &quot;Oh, puh-lease, I could live lavishly with a $500k salary! These guys are spoiled idiots!&quot;, you are just like the homeless man. You are taking the figure *out of context*, i.e., imagining having someone else&#039;s salary in the context of *your* lifestyle.

The rational thing to do would be to move to a less affluent neighborhood (e.g., Brooklyn) where you won&#039;t feel pressured to keep up with your UES neighbors (who are probably struggling just as much but try really hard to hide it).

However, once you&#039;ve had the taste of UES living, it&#039;s difficult to downgrade. From your perspective, it seems like an easy and obvious choice, and you make fun of these people for not making that choice.

Before you cry and moan about these execs, keep in mind that there are plenty of people who earn less than you that would say the same thing about you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week, I was standing at a bus stop as a man next to me started speaking to me. Not too far from the bus stop, within view, was an outdoor trapeze school. People (most likely tourists) paid $20 for a brief lesson. The man complained how stupid those people are for spending $20 for a couple of swings, while he can get by with $20 for two weeks! (It was then that I realized the man is homeless.) He took out a small plastic box and showed me some things he&#8217;s been stowing away in there; cigarettes (down to the filter), some seeds, gum, etc. This is what he lived on.</p>
<p>To the folks complaining about how stupid these execs are, saying moronic things like &#8220;Oh, puh-lease, I could live lavishly with a $500k salary! These guys are spoiled idiots!&#8221;, you are just like the homeless man. You are taking the figure *out of context*, i.e., imagining having someone else&#8217;s salary in the context of *your* lifestyle.</p>
<p>The rational thing to do would be to move to a less affluent neighborhood (e.g., Brooklyn) where you won&#8217;t feel pressured to keep up with your UES neighbors (who are probably struggling just as much but try really hard to hide it).</p>
<p>However, once you&#8217;ve had the taste of UES living, it&#8217;s difficult to downgrade. From your perspective, it seems like an easy and obvious choice, and you make fun of these people for not making that choice.</p>
<p>Before you cry and moan about these execs, keep in mind that there are plenty of people who earn less than you that would say the same thing about you.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on people, learn some economics! If these executives can\&#039;t make more than $500k, many will move to a country where they can. The net loss of talent and money would stunt growth indefinitely. If you don\&#039;t have the education or dedication to make $500k a year, then you have no reason to be jealous of people who do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on people, learn some economics! If these executives can\&#8217;t make more than $500k, many will move to a country where they can. The net loss of talent and money would stunt growth indefinitely. If you don\&#8217;t have the education or dedication to make $500k a year, then you have no reason to be jealous of people who do.</p>
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		<title>By: GMNightmare</title>
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		<dc:creator>GMNightmare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloody hell...

What, take 10% of that and you&#039;ll find the average New Yorker&#039;s income.

Rich people are morons.  I could live off 500,000 a year, in fact, I could live lavishly off 500,000 a year with plenty to spare and save.

Hell, I&#039;d take one year of that, and I could last a decade easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloody hell&#8230;</p>
<p>What, take 10% of that and you&#8217;ll find the average New Yorker&#8217;s income.</p>
<p>Rich people are morons.  I could live off 500,000 a year, in fact, I could live lavishly off 500,000 a year with plenty to spare and save.</p>
<p>Hell, I&#8217;d take one year of that, and I could last a decade easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Herbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those poor indigent bankers.  Of course, the outrageous salaries are part of the reason NYC is so expensive.  So, maybe a mass pay-cut may bring the prices down.  Look on the bright side bankers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those poor indigent bankers.  Of course, the outrageous salaries are part of the reason NYC is so expensive.  So, maybe a mass pay-cut may bring the prices down.  Look on the bright side bankers!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://totalcandor.com/blog/2009/02/could-you-get-by-on-half-a-million-a-year/comment-page-1/#comment-110256</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand that NYC is much more expensive than most cities in the world but you don&#039;t have to live a lavish lifestyle and having a second home is in my opinion lavish unless you can truly afford it. I think you can live quite comfortably on that half a million even in NYC and you could live extremely well in most of the US. 

As for living from paycheck to paycheck making that much money requires effort and a lifestyle that is quite lavish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that NYC is much more expensive than most cities in the world but you don&#8217;t have to live a lavish lifestyle and having a second home is in my opinion lavish unless you can truly afford it. I think you can live quite comfortably on that half a million even in NYC and you could live extremely well in most of the US. </p>
<p>As for living from paycheck to paycheck making that much money requires effort and a lifestyle that is quite lavish.</p>
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		<title>By: traineeinvestor</title>
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		<dc:creator>traineeinvestor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does not really matter what your income is - if you spend it all you will be faced with some difficult choices if your income falls (or stops completely) - as many previously high income earners are learning. Given that this happens everytime there is a downturn in the economy (even if this time is more severe than the tech bust and the 1987 crash), there really is not excuse for not being aware of the need to live well within your means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does not really matter what your income is &#8211; if you spend it all you will be faced with some difficult choices if your income falls (or stops completely) &#8211; as many previously high income earners are learning. Given that this happens everytime there is a downturn in the economy (even if this time is more severe than the tech bust and the 1987 crash), there really is not excuse for not being aware of the need to live well within your means.</p>
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		<title>By: Fiamma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fiamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While dollars do stretch farther out of NYC, keeping up with the Joneses and who has the best toys is what gets people into trouble in NY and its suburbs in the first place. It is a sign of the times a la Gordon Gekko when you think you cannot live without a driver, nanny, cook and other amenities that have come to define you.  As you have always stated paycheck to paycheck applies to millionaires too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While dollars do stretch farther out of NYC, keeping up with the Joneses and who has the best toys is what gets people into trouble in NY and its suburbs in the first place. It is a sign of the times a la Gordon Gekko when you think you cannot live without a driver, nanny, cook and other amenities that have come to define you.  As you have always stated paycheck to paycheck applies to millionaires too.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your comments, Michael. 

Speaking as someone who moved from New York City to Austin, Texas, it certainly is true that your dollars stretch much farther outside the NY area, even for someone earning significantly less than an executive salary in either city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your comments, Michael. </p>
<p>Speaking as someone who moved from New York City to Austin, Texas, it certainly is true that your dollars stretch much farther outside the NY area, even for someone earning significantly less than an executive salary in either city.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant Baldwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant Baldwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me while I shed a tear for all those struggling to make ends meet on a poor budget of half a million dollars a year.

I feel for you...I truly feel for you.  

(END SARCASM!)

That article is sad...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me while I shed a tear for all those struggling to make ends meet on a poor budget of half a million dollars a year.</p>
<p>I feel for you&#8230;I truly feel for you.  </p>
<p>(END SARCASM!)</p>
<p>That article is sad&#8230;</p>
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